THE GLADIATOR

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  What is "truth" - COULD Einstein Have Been Wrong?

  by AGuest in

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  may you all have peace!.

  just came across this article:.

  http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44629271/ns/technology_and_science-science/?gt1=43001.

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  THE GLADIATOR

  AGuest has made many posts over the months that seek to discredit science. The idea seems to be that If the argument for belief in scientific theories can be weakened, then the argument for belief in religious theories can be strengthened, by t ipping the balance.

  Interesting stuff, but to make this an even playing field we have to ask where the source of information came from. If a scientist declared a new understanding based on a voice that he or she believed to belong to an invisible being with whom a friendship had been made, more evidence would be required before the scientists personal belief could be taken seriously or accepted as of value in establishing truth.
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  How do you know when the Governing Body speaks for itself, and when it is supposed to speak for Jehovah?

  by dgp in

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  in the catholic church, the pope is considered "infallible" when he speaks ex cathedra.

  that is to say, he is not infallible when he speaks about things that don't have to do with religion.

  for example, he may say whatever he pleases about economics, but no one will hold that catholic economists will have sinned against god if they consider that the pope is wrong.. the important point here is that the pope is thought to be infallible only when he speaks about matters strictly related to the church.. the wikipedia has this:.

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  MeanMrMustard in the UK the benchmark for mustard is - Colman's English Mustard.

  You show promise but need to turn the heat up if you are hoping to cut the mustard!
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  How do you know when the Governing Body speaks for itself, and when it is supposed to speak for Jehovah?

  by dgp in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the catholic church, the pope is considered "infallible" when he speaks ex cathedra.

  that is to say, he is not infallible when he speaks about things that don't have to do with religion.

  for example, he may say whatever he pleases about economics, but no one will hold that catholic economists will have sinned against god if they consider that the pope is wrong.. the important point here is that the pope is thought to be infallible only when he speaks about matters strictly related to the church.. the wikipedia has this:.

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  How do you know when the Governing Body speaks for itself, and when it is supposed to speak for Jehovah?

  by dgp in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the catholic church, the pope is considered "infallible" when he speaks ex cathedra.

  that is to say, he is not infallible when he speaks about things that don't have to do with religion.

  for example, he may say whatever he pleases about economics, but no one will hold that catholic economists will have sinned against god if they consider that the pope is wrong.. the important point here is that the pope is thought to be infallible only when he speaks about matters strictly related to the church.. the wikipedia has this:.

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  THE GLADIATOR

  The Governing Body always speaks for itself because Jehovah does not exist.This is the appeal of having an organization to follow, it is at least real and tangible, producing endless books and Watchtowers to read for guidence.

  Ok! They are full of nonsence but the members would rather have an illusion of certainty than face the reality of uncertainty.
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  The Value of a Godless World

  by cantleave in

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  thought provoking.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a42rhvmnuaa&feature=uploademail.

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  THE GLADIATOR

  "Yes, there is a value in a world without God.

  What that VALUE is, however, depends on MAN.

  If man is no more than an "evolved mammal" then there is no reason to see Man as anything more than just another "dominate species" in a given period of time on this Planet."

  That about sums up it up for me! I would like to have found a deeper meaning and purpose to life and believe that love is the driving force behind life but alas I see no evidence that it works that way. Sad but true - I really am that shallow.
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  Is It Love? Or is it Selfishness?

  by JamesThomas in

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  as jehovah's witnesses, we are programmed to believe that what we do is out of love.

  love for god, our family and neighbors.

  this sounds good and it feels good.

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  THE GLADIATOR

  Good to hear from you James. Anything that is done with a reward in mind is selfish. In a material world, which includes animals the name of the game for each species is survival or extinction, so selfishness can be an essential survival tool.

  It’s interesting that even ants will sacrifice their own lives for the benefit if the nest, showing their awareness of a cause greater than their individual survival. As humans we call this altruism. For a human too act out of pure love requires surrender of the ego. I have sympathies with the Buddhist approach to this subject.
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  Everyone has an opinion

  by sizemik in

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  in the modern world everybody wants to be "politcally correct".

  but what they feel others want to hear.. in a way .

  it's a kind of deception.. well .

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  Can't agree with Don Cherry entirely. Personally I think a Lorry battery would be better.
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  Did YOU Change In Your Personality After You Left The Organization?

  by minimus in

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  we knock a lot of things about the witnesses.

  i wonder if we're really all that much different in our personalities as exjws.. .

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  It was easy for me.

  I never had a personality to begin with!
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  The Value of a Godless World

  by cantleave in

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  thought provoking.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a42rhvmnuaa&feature=uploademail.

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  THE GLADIATOR

  There is nothing wrong with the natural world and never has been, how could there be? There is no bench mark to measure it against. Life simply does what it has to in order to survive. It is a cruel organic world where all matter is recycled including living animals. This involves larger creatures devouring smaller creatures often while still alive. It has always been thus.

  Humans have created an artificial world that despite its benefits is not without its problems. It's convenient for humans to pretend that an invisible god is responsible for all the good and the bad in the world. Instead of humans seeking a solution to the world’s problems from their various gods they need to realize that they are the world’s problem.

  Forgive me but it's Friday and throwing my coin in the ring makes me feel alive!
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  Theological Arguments, Human Realities

  by AllTimeJeff in

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  as i have sunken to a new low in condescending posts (according to botchtowersociety, who truthfully is an expert on all things bullshit), it did occur to me that discussions, debates, and mud slinging insult matches on this board often have a common root.. let me put out there that i am not an atheist, nor an agnostic.

  frankly, i respect your right to believe that god is a trinity.

  that he is jesus.

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  THE GLADIATOR

  Sulla I have read this thread with interest but without comment so far. Your remark to AllTimeJeff a respected and polite poster, was totally uncalled for.

  I no longer have any interest in what you have to say. You have proved to me that whatever your beliefs they are not desirable.